Assembling an Asm File (answered)

Moose · Post by **Moose** » Sat 26 Jan, 2008 10:08 pm

Hello. I've been trying to learn assembly for the past month, but a huge roadblock is the fact that i cant run tasm very well. The problem is all the tutorials aren't very accurate about what is supposed to happen when i run it (ie nothing until i run it manually from the dos). Maybe its because I have windows vista or xp (i have both / tried both)

BTW, one way i tried actually outputs a hex file, but theres nothing in it.

Would any of you mind telling me how you assemble your programs?

King Harold · Post by **King Harold** » Sat 26 Jan, 2008 10:43 pm

I do it the easy way - with LateNite & Brass
It's much easier than TASM (which I have used but it's a bitch..), Brass "just works" unlike TASM which has an argument with you first

Ben's tools might even be workable with Vista since he likes Vista. Still, workable tools on an OS that has an argument with you whenever you (or a program) do(es) something is not really fun so best just use XP

I would be surprised if TASM works with Vista at all

Moose · Post by **Moose** » Sat 26 Jan, 2008 11:12 pm

King Harold wrote:I do it the easy way - with LateNite & Brass
It's much easier than TASM (which I have used but it's a bitch..), Brass "just works" unlike TASM which has an argument with you first

Ben's tools might even be workable with Vista since he likes Vista. Still, workable tools on an OS that has an argument with you whenever you (or a program) do(es) something is not really fun so best just use XP

I would be surprised if TASM works with Vista at all

Is there an easy way to run brass, I'm a bit confused.

Post by **Dwedit** » Sat 26 Jan, 2008 11:43 pm

Make sure you're using the Win32 console version of TASM, not the DOS version.

King Harold · Post by **King Harold** » Sun 27 Jan, 2008 11:21 am

Moose wrote:Is there an easy way to run brass, I'm a bit confused.

it's easy if you read the manual, but it's much easier to start it with LateNite's compile button

driesguldolf · Post by **driesguldolf** » Sun 27 Jan, 2008 3:58 pm

Tasm isn't bugged or anything, it just has some stupid limitations and errors that won't make you wise.

I do suggest Brass3 BUT there isn't a manual on how to use it yet (maybe I should try to make one... Hmm...), and it may be not so easy since it uses project files (only because there's no docs on it)

There's also Spasm (check out revsoft.org) but I don't know much about it.

Post by **benryves** » Mon 28 Jan, 2008 11:59 am

Brass 3 comes with a sample TI program, I suppose you could duplicate the project folder and change the code. You build programs by double-clicking on the project file, which is pretty easy.

Timendus · Post by **Timendus** » Thu 31 Jan, 2008 6:56 pm

@Moose: See if this is of any help to you: http://wikiti.denglend.net/index.php?title=Beginners
And if not, let us know why not so we can improve it

Moose · Post by **Moose** » Thu 31 Jan, 2008 7:16 pm

That does help me

but does brass have a .exe file (I didn't see one) It tells me

'brass.exe' is not recognized as an internal..... etc

In any case I tried Asm studio for some of my programs and it worked fine, I was finally able to output a ram file. Thanks for the help

Timendus · Post by **Timendus** » Fri 01 Feb, 2008 11:55 am

There's in fact a direct link on the wiki page that I refered you to...
http://benryves.com/bin/brass/Brass.exe

Moose · Post by **Moose** » Tue 18 Mar, 2008 3:37 am

This is my favorite tutorial in ti assembly so far. Does anyone think it's a bad idea to use this one?

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/TI_83_Plus ... t_you_need

King Harold · Post by **King Harold** » Tue 18 Mar, 2008 10:03 am

If by "this one" you mean the TASM they linked to, then yes that is a bad idea..

If you mean the tutorial itself.. well, it's incomplete, I had to add a lot of stuff to make it even passingly acceptable, and it is based on http://dragonfire.unitedti.org/asmin28/lesson/toc.html so much that you could just as well read that one (which is more complete)

Moose · Post by **Moose** » Tue 18 Mar, 2008 7:03 pm

Thanks for the link, I've tried that tutorial and it's working pretty well but it's not handling my rom calls very well, see:

EDIT:

Ah never mind, I figured it out. For some reason the include file I used uses bcall instead of b_call so I changed it and now it works fine

Thank alot guys, this is the first time I've actually been able to assemble a program. That's really been my only problem, I don't think that language is that hard to learn.

Liazon · Post by **Liazon** » Wed 19 Mar, 2008 12:30 am

seriously, all future updates (if there will be any) to ti83plus.inc need to include both bcall and b_call !!!!

it's like one of the major impediments to people learning ASM aside from no experience opening a command prompt!!!

King Harold · Post by **King Harold** » Wed 19 Mar, 2008 8:58 am

Why are you using TASM? (despite many warnings that it's the worst assembler out there?)