INVASION!!

King Harold · Post by **King Harold** » Mon 25 Dec, 2006 12:47 pm

This is'nt normal anymore, could we change the sign-in form again? would it even help?

hop · Post by **hop** » Mon 25 Dec, 2006 3:04 pm

http://www.invisionboard.com/

http://www.simplemachines.org/

KevinJB · Post by **KevinJB** » Mon 25 Dec, 2006 3:31 pm

Expensive.

Crap.

hop · Post by **hop** » Mon 25 Dec, 2006 5:48 pm

Nope. And I'm sure a professional developer such as KV83 can afford it.

PhpBB is the worst kind of crap you could possibly get, so something else being crap doesn't mean it's not a step upwards.

King Harold · Post by **King Harold** » Mon 25 Dec, 2006 5:56 pm

those invision things arent that bad..

KV will think of something

Post by **Dwedit** » Mon 25 Dec, 2006 6:56 pm

Spammers suck. Any message board system will get them, even punbb.

King Harold · Post by **King Harold** » Mon 25 Dec, 2006 8:40 pm

couldnt we just auto-ban everyone who says something like "pissing chicks" or "orgasms", those are bad on itself, but only a spammer would seriously use them. (I hope!)
is that possible?
and auto-remove their post ofcourse

Post by **kv83** » Mon 25 Dec, 2006 11:32 pm

we'll stick with phpbb. as dwedit said, spammers are on every board, we can only try to "block" them with different mods.

hop · Post by **hop** » Mon 25 Dec, 2006 11:48 pm

Well yeah if that's your attitude then that's all you can do.

Or you could get some proper forum software that can't be easily exploited with a 5 minute google search to take down your whole database (lolphp).

Or if you're unwilling to learn from past mistakes (how manyeth MC board is this again?) you could think of why not every forum has spam bots on it and spend some time implementing it.

Post by **kv83** » Tue 26 Dec, 2006 12:00 am

But hey, let's see. forum has been around for 2 years. Seems good to me. I don't like your attitude at all btw.

Also past mistakes (wtf?) have nothing to do with the choice of forum. But hey, it's ok if you just talk bullshit... apparantly you don't know better.

KevinJB · Post by **KevinJB** » Tue 26 Dec, 2006 12:03 am

Nope. And I'm sure a professional developer such as KV83 can afford it.

If he could afford that why not just get vBulletin, which is a FAR better bulletin board system than Invision Power is. (Yes, I've used both)

PhpBB is the worst kind of crap you could possibly get, so something else being crap doesn't mean it's not a step upwards.

Oh, make no mistake, I hate phpBB just as much as I hate SMF. But that doesn't mean SMF is better.

...you could think of why not every forum has spam bots on it and spend some time implementing it.

I'm not sure why you think other forums have some magical protection against spammers, but they don't - UnitedTI uses IPB, still gets plagued by spambots.

hop · Post by **hop** » Tue 26 Dec, 2006 12:25 am

2 whole years of nobody being enough of a bored loser to actually fill kvince83.tengun.net/maxboard/ into the first results for scripts on google. Again. I guess that's a security strategy too.. bore them with ease so they eventually just don't bother any more? Hey, if it works for myspace... (passwords anyone?)

Or was this "statistic" ment to be proof that this is actually secure and it's not anyone's guess if the whole thing is gone today or tomorrow?

And here I was thinking that required code, configuration, and protocol analyses'. Oh hey, I just thought of 2 blatant erors in these fields for the scenario directly related to this topic. PHPBB and reactive security management.

Oh my, the direct reason for this very topic is a consequence of both of these, but never mind that because as long as we can still be spammed here after being hacked numerous times and finally scraping together 2 years of up/downtime we can say it's working just fine.

I don't care about my or your attitude. All I'm saying is what the consequences are of using software in line with such an attitude as yours towards security. And I'm not wrong there regardless of my attitude. Whatever that is.

why not just get vBulletin

You shouldn't be asking me that, I'm all for it.

Oh, make no mistake, I hate phpBB just as much as I hate SMF. But that doesn't mean SMF is better.

Oh how sensible an argument hate makes in software choices, doesn't it?

I'm not sure why you think other forums have some magical protection against spammers, but they don't

I don't. There's no magic to it. That's why people are able to make a living out of ict security management.

UnitedTI still gets plagued by spambots.

Actually, nope, just took a while to emplace a proactive solution because not everybody has the free time to go on their barely functioning forum and call others clueless about web development.

threefingeredguy · Post by **threefingeredguy** » Tue 26 Dec, 2006 2:49 am

If you seriously care about the security of the site, write some custom anti-bot mods that only Maxcoderz uses so that they don't become widespread and breakable. Revsoft did that and it worked for a while until manually-registered bot owners added our new security measure to their stuff.

If you are worried about your own security then get the fuck out.

Post by **DarkAuron** » Tue 26 Dec, 2006 4:04 am

A negative attitude convinces no one. Therefore your argument is invalid. This topic is closed now.